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we are leaving afghanistan. during a period where we had 10,000, 20,000, 50,000 troops in afghanistan, you couldn't let people like this out. this is an exclamation point on the fact that we are withdrawing and this is now for the afghans. >> what about guantanamo bay and these other prisoners? i mean, are they in effect bargaining chips on the international scene? >> this is a very difficult position, and i think actually getting more of them out will be harder now because of congressional reaction to the president's release in this case. there are still many people there who we cannot let go. >> michael, thanks so much for your expertise. i'm joined by paul rieckhoff and adam kinzinger, republican congressman from illinois. he's an iraq and afghanistan veteran, still serves as a pilot in the air national guard. i have you both here to talk about the fallout from the va scandal, shinseki's resignation. let me start with you on the release of the taliban prisoners. as a member of congress, a republican, do you o
we are leaving afghanistan. during a period where we had 10,000, 20,000, 50,000 troops in afghanistan, you couldn't let people like this out. this is an exclamation point on the fact that we are withdrawing and this is now for the afghans. >> what about guantanamo bay and these other prisoners? i mean, are they in effect bargaining chips on the international scene? >> this is a very difficult position, and i think actually getting more of them out will be harder now because of...
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troops in the nine-year war in afghanistan. with us, the president's principle military adviser, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen. welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning, david. >> we just played for our viewers strong comments by you about these leaks. you indicated those who are responsible for making these secret documents public may already have blood on their hands. a strong statement. what specifically do you mean? >> the scope and volume of these leaks are unprecedented and the specifics of them and i've been through some of them but we've still got a lot of work to do to really put the details together. i think the leaks themselves don't look clearly at the war that we're in, there is an ability to put this kind of information together in the world that we're living in and potential for costing us lives is significant. i said when it first occurred i was appalled. i remain appalled. and the potential for the loss of lives of american soldiers, coalition soldiers, or afghan citize
troops in the nine-year war in afghanistan. with us, the president's principle military adviser, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen. welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning, david. >> we just played for our viewers strong comments by you about these leaks. you indicated those who are responsible for making these secret documents public may already have blood on their hands. a strong statement. what specifically do you mean? >>...
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then but what was once thought of as the, quote, good war, as opposed to iraq at the time, afghanistan became a forever war and run that for americans who did not have friends serving in the fight eventually became the forgotten war. then on thursday president biden said enough was enough and they would complete withdrawal by the end of the month later, actually, than former president trump had planned. and also left behind, those afghan translators and contractors. american nation building along with the hopes of establishing a greater level of freedom and more independence for women in that country in fact, even as they announced the withdrawal president biden admitted mission hasn't failed yet. so even if most americans forgot about this war, as richard engel reports from kabul, for those left behind this is still real. >> reporter: they are laughing it up by applies spokesman and why not? the taliban have taken control of most of afghanistan in weeks often after firing a shot. troops are sur ending handing over posts and weapons the taliban give each soldier the equivalent of $80 p
then but what was once thought of as the, quote, good war, as opposed to iraq at the time, afghanistan became a forever war and run that for americans who did not have friends serving in the fight eventually became the forgotten war. then on thursday president biden said enough was enough and they would complete withdrawal by the end of the month later, actually, than former president trump had planned. and also left behind, those afghan translators and contractors. american nation building...
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♪ ♪ >>> this sunday, terror and dread in afghanistan. the u.s. evacuation in peril as the death toll from that isis attack reaches nearly 200, including 13 american service members. >> we will not forgive, we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make you pay. >> the u.s. hits isis with a drone attack in eastern afghanistan. >> two high-profile isis targets were killed and one was wounded. >> president biden says another terror attack is highly likely. >> we have other active threats against the airfield. >> and the president is sticking to his tuesday withdrawal deadline. this morning, my interviews with secretary of state antony blinken and president trump's second national security adviser, h.r. mcmaster. >>> plus, surging covid cases. >> the amount of death and tieing that we're seeing is -- in my whole nursing career, i've never seen anything like that. >> more than 100,000 americans hospitalized. >> the patients we're getting are younger, and they're turning sicker much faster. >> as millions of americans refuse to be vaccinated. >> we
♪ ♪ >>> this sunday, terror and dread in afghanistan. the u.s. evacuation in peril as the death toll from that isis attack reaches nearly 200, including 13 american service members. >> we will not forgive, we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make you pay. >> the u.s. hits isis with a drone attack in eastern afghanistan. >> two high-profile isis targets were killed and one was wounded. >> president biden says another terror attack is highly likely....
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>>> this sunday, afghanistan's sudden collapse. taliban fighters on the brink of total control of the country. and they have entered the capital city of kabul, prompting the u.s. to increase the number of troops for the evacuation of the embassy which has begun. president biden, though, standing firm of the u.s. withdrawal. >> we're going to continue to keep our commitment. >> i'll talk to secretary of state antony blinken and to nbc's richard engel in kabul. >>> an emergency situation here. no doubt about it. tionwide, over burdening hospitals. >> we're not machines. we can't continue to two this forever. >> with children caught in the middle over mask mandates in school. >> i have two. neither will wear masks. >> we're seeing more kids symptomatic and more kids hospitalized due to the delta variant. >> my guest, epidemiology michael osterholm of the university of minnesota. >>> a changing country. the new census report. rural america shrinks as urban america grows. joining me are democratic pollster cornell belcher, anne gearan,
>>> this sunday, afghanistan's sudden collapse. taliban fighters on the brink of total control of the country. and they have entered the capital city of kabul, prompting the u.s. to increase the number of troops for the evacuation of the embassy which has begun. president biden, though, standing firm of the u.s. withdrawal. >> we're going to continue to keep our commitment. >> i'll talk to secretary of state antony blinken and to nbc's richard engel in kabul. >>>...
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are in afghanistan, let alone kabul. if you're an american and you're at a gate, you'll be let in that gate. >> thousands of afghans continue to crowd the airport, barred from entering by taliban shooting, flash bangs and whips. >> they run behind you with ak-47, boom, boom, boom, boom. >> the u.s. says it will bring up to 22,000 afghans to the united states and facilitate more to other countries. the international rescue committeest plates more than 300,000 afghan civilians have been affiliated with the united states mission since 2001. >> if we go now, of course they will kill us. >> i'm old enough to remember saigon. this is a lot worse than saigon in 1975. >> despite the president's claims -- >> i have seen no question of our credibility from our allies around the world. >> -- some u.s. allies are criticizing the president and questioning america's role in the world. >> this is a catastrophe. >> to see their commander-in-chief to call into question the courage of men i fought with, to claim that they ran, shameful. >
are in afghanistan, let alone kabul. if you're an american and you're at a gate, you'll be let in that gate. >> thousands of afghans continue to crowd the airport, barred from entering by taliban shooting, flash bangs and whips. >> they run behind you with ak-47, boom, boom, boom, boom. >> the u.s. says it will bring up to 22,000 afghans to the united states and facilitate more to other countries. the international rescue committeest plates more than 300,000 afghan civilians...
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it didn't start post-afghanistan or iraq. again, this is where we've got to be realistic about this. this has grown up over a long period of time. it's come out of the middle east. it's been taught in informal and formal education systems, and the thing i'm saying is, look, climate change is a big issue. the running of the global economy is a big issue. but so is educating our young people to an open-minded attitude and mindset for the world. >> the middle east peace process, is it about to crumble and what's your angle on this? what would you do to somehow revive it? >> keep going. you can never give up with these things. look, i remember -- >> even if it looks like it's going nowhere. >> if i had given up by the northern ireland peace process looked as if was going nowhere, we would never have got there. the fact is in the end in the middle east, what do people know? they know there is only one solution which is two states living side by side and actually a majority of people support it. now, the politics of both sides make
it didn't start post-afghanistan or iraq. again, this is where we've got to be realistic about this. this has grown up over a long period of time. it's come out of the middle east. it's been taught in informal and formal education systems, and the thing i'm saying is, look, climate change is a big issue. the running of the global economy is a big issue. but so is educating our young people to an open-minded attitude and mindset for the world. >> the middle east peace process, is it about...
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we're coming out of afghanistan. we're shifting on the emphasis and indeed shifting, we hope, the requirements to support the troop there is to the afghanis. he's done the same thing as he's done in the campaign to bring our troops out of iraq. >> is it that clear, senator webb, the mission. what we're actually still doing there seems a bit unclear. gene robinson wrote the following in his column in "the washington post" on friday. the most disheartening thing he said is the absence of clear thinking. it was hard to tell if he was sticking to his strategy or switching, perhaps doing a little bit of both. no evidence that he considered the possibility that the war was being perpetuated not by rational pursuit of the national interest but by its own inertia. is there too much compromise that leads us to an uncleear wa forward? >> there's a legitimate question of what the end point should be or would be. we don't want it to be a negative end point given what we put into it. this is a careful process that result in the p
we're coming out of afghanistan. we're shifting on the emphasis and indeed shifting, we hope, the requirements to support the troop there is to the afghanis. he's done the same thing as he's done in the campaign to bring our troops out of iraq. >> is it that clear, senator webb, the mission. what we're actually still doing there seems a bit unclear. gene robinson wrote the following in his column in "the washington post" on friday. the most disheartening thing he said is the...
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for afghanistan, that's all for today. i'll be back next week from if n gtshin's s i if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." pain. that's breakfast with two pills. the morning is over, it's time for two more pills. the day marches on, back to more pills. and when he's finally home... but hang on -- just two aleve can keep arthritis pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is steven, who chose aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief of aleve in liquid gels. i'm from the gulf coast. i vacation here, my family spends a lot of time here. i have a personal, vested interest in ensuring that we get this job done right. i'm keith seilhan. i'm in charge of bp's cleanup on the gulf coast. bp has taken full responsibility for cleanup in the gulf and that includes keeping you informed. you may have heard that oil is no longer flowing into the gulf. there's less oil coming ashore every day, but we still have thousands of people ready to clean it up if it does. when oil is spotted, we ge
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>>> this sunday, what now in afghanistan? in this election year a new debate has erupted when to withdrawal u.s. forces for what's become the longest war in u.s. history. >> we're going to complete this mission and we're going to do it responsibly. >> my exclusive guest, ranking member of the senate armed services committee, john mccain, who will weigh in on the latest twists of the gop race. can romney outlast rivals as another primary in illinois? a special roundtable discussion as we learn more about the u.s. soldier allegedly behind the massacre of afghan civilians. what are our troops going through over multiple deployment in war zones in iraq and afghanistan? with us, afghanistan war veteran and author, wes moore. iraq war veteran and executive director of veterans of america, paul rieckhoff. author of "where men win glory" about the death of paul tillman, jon krakauer, bob woodard and helene cooper. finally, my conversation with george clooney on his fight to stop ethnic cleansing in sudan george clooney on his fight t
>>> this sunday, what now in afghanistan? in this election year a new debate has erupted when to withdrawal u.s. forces for what's become the longest war in u.s. history. >> we're going to complete this mission and we're going to do it responsibly. >> my exclusive guest, ranking member of the senate armed services committee, john mccain, who will weigh in on the latest twists of the gop race. can romney outlast rivals as another primary in illinois? a special roundtable...
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as we get out of afghanistan? >> i think we have to be clear about what the goal is and that the president keeps saying, well, we're going to withdrawal. if he had given the military leaders, ones he appointed, 40,000 troops instead of 30,000, and hadn't said we were going to withdraw early, maybe we could are done what's necessary in eastern afghanistan and things would be a lot better than they are today. >> can i -- >> i can also tell you that american presidents lead. the same reason the president won't lead on syria, where president clinton would lead on bosnia and kosovo, this president won't lead while people are being massacred in syria. that does not mean america goes it alone, but it means america should lead, which the president refuses to do. >> senator, how do you get a reset of our foreign policy and national security policy that has some realism to it and understands the boundaries of what we can actually accomplish? isn't afghanistan a perfect example of al qaeda's not there, you have a corrupt cen
as we get out of afghanistan? >> i think we have to be clear about what the goal is and that the president keeps saying, well, we're going to withdrawal. if he had given the military leaders, ones he appointed, 40,000 troops instead of 30,000, and hadn't said we were going to withdraw early, maybe we could are done what's necessary in eastern afghanistan and things would be a lot better than they are today. >> can i -- >> i can also tell you that american presidents lead. the...
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where is the progress that we're going to see in afghanistan? you have to keep public support on the economy and the war or these things will become troubling. >> i want to come back to the war in a moment. mark halperin, on the point about the economy specifically the auto bailouts because the white house said there's success here. we bailed them out. it was unpopular. look, they've come back. we saved jobs. if we walked away it would have been worse. i was reading a blog on washingt washingtonpost.com. the president was in michigan on friday and tried to turn that around. i want to show a portion of what he said. >> the bottom line is this. we have a long way to go, but we're beginning to see some of these tough decisions pay off. we are moving forward. i want you to remember though if some folks had their way, none of this would have been happening. just want to point that out. right. i mean this plant and your jobs might not exist. there were leaders of the just say no crowd in washington. they were saying standing by the auto industry would
where is the progress that we're going to see in afghanistan? you have to keep public support on the economy and the war or these things will become troubling. >> i want to come back to the war in a moment. mark halperin, on the point about the economy specifically the auto bailouts because the white house said there's success here. we bailed them out. it was unpopular. look, they've come back. we saved jobs. if we walked away it would have been worse. i was reading a blog on washingt...
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i didn't vote for 100,000 troops ten years later in afghanistan. and the notion that somehow we're going to build this into some nation that's a democracy. what we need to do is to have enough security on the ground in afghanistan that we can bring our troops home. the president made that promise. we should keep that promise. bring these troops home and let the afghans deal with the future of their country. the united states cannot literally go from one country to another around the world with all the instability and say ultimately our men and women in uniform will put their lives on the line for the stability of every nation in transition. >> senators, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >>> coming up, decision 2012, the campaign heating up. now after two debates for the republicans, our new nbc news/wall street journal poll out this weeks shows republicans really think the current field is maybe not everything it could be. what are those views and how will democrats now refocus their agenda after the weiner scandal? >>> plus, moammar gadhafi
i didn't vote for 100,000 troops ten years later in afghanistan. and the notion that somehow we're going to build this into some nation that's a democracy. what we need to do is to have enough security on the ground in afghanistan that we can bring our troops home. the president made that promise. we should keep that promise. bring these troops home and let the afghans deal with the future of their country. the united states cannot literally go from one country to another around the world with...
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>> the mission in afghanistan is to establish a secure and capable afghanistan that can govern itself and ensure that al qaeda never again establishes a safe haven in that country. >> i want to show you a travel that warning that came out this week. the state department put this out. and i know that afghanistan is not a big tourist spot. afghan authorities have a limited ability to maintain order and ensure the security of afghan citizens and foreign visitors. this is right now. if they can't secure their own citizens now, do we think it will change in a year and a half? >> chuck, let's face it. there's a war going on in afghanistan. this is not your peaceful little paradise, you know, where tourists can go to sun bathe. this is a war area. and, you know, the fact is we've made good progress in the war. we've been able to have 75% of their population now under afghan control and security. we've been able to diminish the taliban's capabilities. violence has gone down. we're also developing an afghan army that is increased its operational skill to provide security. so we're on the right
>> the mission in afghanistan is to establish a secure and capable afghanistan that can govern itself and ensure that al qaeda never again establishes a safe haven in that country. >> i want to show you a travel that warning that came out this week. the state department put this out. and i know that afghanistan is not a big tourist spot. afghan authorities have a limited ability to maintain order and ensure the security of afghan citizens and foreign visitors. this is right now. if...
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are we winning or losing in afghanistan? >> let me separate this out and remind everybody what our goal is. our over-arching goal and rationale for being there is to defeat -- dismantle and defeat al qaeda, residing central al qaeda residing in fatah, the western regions of pakistan. secondly, to make sure that terrorists do not, in fact, bring down the pakistani government, which is a nuclear power. toward that end, we think it's important that there be stability in afghanistan so that al qaeda cannot re-establish it as a base from which to attack the united states of america. with regard to our efforts to degrade al qaeda, we're making great progress, so-called ct. that is, counterterrorism, the use of special forces and the like to go after individuals who make up the leadership of al qaeda and of the taliban. on the issue of counterinsurgency, that is where we clear, hold and build and transfer. we're making progress not as rapidly as we are on the other front. in his release, pointing out that we need two things that we
are we winning or losing in afghanistan? >> let me separate this out and remind everybody what our goal is. our over-arching goal and rationale for being there is to defeat -- dismantle and defeat al qaeda, residing central al qaeda residing in fatah, the western regions of pakistan. secondly, to make sure that terrorists do not, in fact, bring down the pakistani government, which is a nuclear power. toward that end, we think it's important that there be stability in afghanistan so that...
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troops will remain in afghanistan to support local security forces. the mission's success is far from certain. >> it's hard to imagine the afghan army and police pulling together these factions. so i think bad news in afghanistan is what we ought to expect. >> reporter: for the u.s. military 2015 will focus on preventing old wars from getting worse, which means those conflicts will continue to be a drain on american resources and perhaps a distraction from what could be the real security challenges, like iran's nuclear problem or cyber warfare. the u.s. now seems to be in a semi-permanent state of war unable to break from the past. for "meet the press," i'm richard engel turkey. >> i'm joined by daniel p. bolger and sarah chezshays who served as a special adviser. welcome to "meet the press" to both of you. general, let me start with you. it was your veteran's day op ed that got a lot of people's attention which had the headline about why we lost both wars. the wars haven't ended even though we're saying they have ended as far as 2014. what are we in
troops will remain in afghanistan to support local security forces. the mission's success is far from certain. >> it's hard to imagine the afghan army and police pulling together these factions. so i think bad news in afghanistan is what we ought to expect. >> reporter: for the u.s. military 2015 will focus on preventing old wars from getting worse, which means those conflicts will continue to be a drain on american resources and perhaps a distraction from what could be the real...
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the taliban have taken control of most of afghanistan in weeks often after firing a shot. troops are sur ending handing over posts and weapons the taliban give each soldier the equivalent of $80 pocket money for the trip home. the united states spent more than $80 billion to train annie equip afghan security forces the return on investment so far is low. >> corruption is the main defense for some of the taliban. >> reporter: this member of parliament extremists have tried to kill her twice. >> i had a meeting yesterday who tried to run away. they were steeling me stories because there was no food for them. >> reporter: when we visit the air base it was empty, i was able to bike down the runway no one even asked what i was doing. the soldiers seemed almost unaware there is a war going on. but two units are fighting afghanistan small air force and the commandos on a mission i saw them on the attack advancing into gun fight but there are just 30,000 commandos up against around three times as many taliban. the commandos are doing 90% of the fighting so perhaps no one is holdin
the taliban have taken control of most of afghanistan in weeks often after firing a shot. troops are sur ending handing over posts and weapons the taliban give each soldier the equivalent of $80 pocket money for the trip home. the united states spent more than $80 billion to train annie equip afghan security forces the return on investment so far is low. >> corruption is the main defense for some of the taliban. >> reporter: this member of parliament extremists have tried to kill...
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. >> i want to talk about afghanistan. you traveled there extensively and think a lot about the war. vice president biden was on this program in the last couple of weeks and emphatic talking about the end game for the united states. this is a portion of what he said. >> the nato conference where we said we are start thing process and just like we did in iraq and starting it and in july and of 2011 and we are going to be totally out of there come hell or high water by 2014. >> if that holds that means there is a level of confidence that the primary challenge can be overcome. which to is what? >> at the end of the day the vice president walked back that statement. the president said we will start transitioning this year, 2014, the afghan security forces will be in the lead. i want an enduring relationship with afghanistan past 2014 and politically economically and militarily so that country never goes back into the hands of taliban or al qaeda. the two words that will be talked about in 2011, corruption and afghanistan. i ho
. >> i want to talk about afghanistan. you traveled there extensively and think a lot about the war. vice president biden was on this program in the last couple of weeks and emphatic talking about the end game for the united states. this is a portion of what he said. >> the nato conference where we said we are start thing process and just like we did in iraq and starting it and in july and of 2011 and we are going to be totally out of there come hell or high water by 2014. >>...
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that's the reason why we went to afghanistan as a result of 9/11. so, there's no doubt in my mind that we would have al qaeda presence and influence in afghanistan and even a return to a base for a tax on the united states of america. also, there's a fundamental question, do you want to condemn the afghan people to the rule of the taliban? i think we should try to avoid that as well. >> all right. senator mccain, thank you for your views. >> thanks for having me on. >> coming up, the state of the economy. the unprecedented downgrade of the u.s. credit rating and a volatile week on wall street fears we may be facing another recession. we'll have opinions from alan greenspan and austan goolsbee and how the economy will play on the race for the white house. with us rachel maddow and alex castellanos. it's coming up after the break. we know why we're here. to chart a greener path in the air and in our factories. ♪ to find cleaner, more efficient ways to power flight. ♪ and harness our technology for new energy solutions. [ female announcer ] around
that's the reason why we went to afghanistan as a result of 9/11. so, there's no doubt in my mind that we would have al qaeda presence and influence in afghanistan and even a return to a base for a tax on the united states of america. also, there's a fundamental question, do you want to condemn the afghan people to the rule of the taliban? i think we should try to avoid that as well. >> all right. senator mccain, thank you for your views. >> thanks for having me on. >> coming...
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presence in afghanistan does harm to al qaeda. whether or not leaving now poses a challenge to afghan's governmt. democrats would vote unanimously to speed up the withdrawal. the president would decent from that. the republicans are split on this issue. i don't think any presidential candidate other than jon huntsman wants the debate about this. >> we talked to john kerry earlier on the program. he reacted this way. >> the tea party downgrade because a minority of people in the house of republican zentives countered the will of many republicans who were prepared to do a bigger deal, $4 trillion, have a mix of reductions and reforms in social security, medicare and medicaid and recognize we needed to do revenue. >> alan greenspan, 15 seconds. what is the prospect they get to the issues they get to? >> very long. it's going to require one person among the 12 to switch positions that their party has held very strongly. >> we don't know who the 12 are yet. it's a question of who gets on there. thank you all very much. before we go, a
presence in afghanistan does harm to al qaeda. whether or not leaving now poses a challenge to afghan's governmt. democrats would vote unanimously to speed up the withdrawal. the president would decent from that. the republicans are split on this issue. i don't think any presidential candidate other than jon huntsman wants the debate about this. >> we talked to john kerry earlier on the program. he reacted this way. >> the tea party downgrade because a minority of people in the...
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leave some forces in afghanistan. >>■ç did these officers input g to the president. >> their input was received by the president. >> forcefully pushed back by republican demands that they resign. >>> joining me for invite and analysis are "wall street journal's" peggy noonan, former also crryuer of "punchbowl news." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck ç todd. >>> good sunday morning. at least congress made sure the government didn't shut down, but that's not all that didn't happen this past week. democrats will slim majorities and big differences of opinion did not manage to pass either of their two big priorities. moderate democrats wanted to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill and keep negotiating on the progressives' larger social spending wish >> everyone wants these roads and bridges, but people aren't going to remember the rode the way they will remember if they wake up in
leave some forces in afghanistan. >>■ç did these officers input g to the president. >> their input was received by the president. >> forcefully pushed back by republican demands that they resign. >>> joining me for invite and analysis are "wall street journal's" peggy noonan, former also crryuer of "punchbowl news." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in...
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where are you on afghanistan? >> i think we need to bring our kids home, there are kids that weren't born when we went into afghanistan. >> that being said, as i was listening to the leadup in your show about the sharpee gate and what he did with greenland and we all keep focusing on that with good reason, it's so crazy. meanwhile, he is hurting our credible around the world. yes you negotiate with the afghan government and the taliban. but you don't treat this likesome kind of game show when you are dealing with terrorists. he clearly wanted the showman's moment of having them come to camp david. he didn't have the complete cease-fire. he didn't have a deal done. he does a tweet, oh, blaming them, oh, it's over. give me a break. this is exactly what he did to kim jong-un, bringing a hot dish next door across the dmz. you deal with your allies, the world is watching. we need to bring credibility back into our foreign policy. >> amy klobuchar, a democrat from california. thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> th
where are you on afghanistan? >> i think we need to bring our kids home, there are kids that weren't born when we went into afghanistan. >> that being said, as i was listening to the leadup in your show about the sharpee gate and what he did with greenland and we all keep focusing on that with good reason, it's so crazy. meanwhile, he is hurting our credible around the world. yes you negotiate with the afghan government and the taliban. but you don't treat this likesome kind of game...
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he is viewed in afghanistan as an american implant. there is no leadership there, the taliban hasn't been pushed back, there was supposed to be negotiations with the taliban. that won't happen because we didn't even know when mullah omar died our intelligence is incredibly faulty, which probably led to the kunduz attack on the hospital and this is just a nightmare. >> by the way, we were talking earlier, joe biden is the guy who said "we probably is to partition iraq." he's the guy that said "small footprint, go counterterrorism." and everybody mocked him. he's looking more prescient than any single person including hillary clinton. >> this is one person where he can put himself close to obama. what strikes me is i believe president obama really intended to change our course in iraq and afghanistan. that was not a phony promise, just like i think he came here really thinking he was going to change the culture of washington. he didn't do either and i saw this as -- that's the last nail in the hope and change coffin. >> this is what this
he is viewed in afghanistan as an american implant. there is no leadership there, the taliban hasn't been pushed back, there was supposed to be negotiations with the taliban. that won't happen because we didn't even know when mullah omar died our intelligence is incredibly faulty, which probably led to the kunduz attack on the hospital and this is just a nightmare. >> by the way, we were talking earlier, joe biden is the guy who said "we probably is to partition iraq." he's the...
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there are lots of reasons for what we're doing in afghanistan. going after bin laden is but one of them. let's see what happens to this network now. let's see what they do. as secretary chernoff said, we could get a lot more biodiversity, so to speak, in the kind of threats coming after us if bin laden did have such a controlling hand. now you're going to have more independent actors and perhaps more agile actors, so let's wait. >> from your point of view, does our tempo increase? >> our tempo should increase. this could be a bit of the pursuit phase, and we should press the fight. >> mayor giuliani, i want to take you back to the end of this week. this president, nearly a decade after president bush visited ground zero after 9 lash/11, re, and you were there with him as he met with firefighters and family members of the victims. there was another image that was so poignant this week from sunday night, firefighters looking at the ticker tape -- i don't know if that was lower manhattan or times square -- osama bin laden is dead. describe what it w
there are lots of reasons for what we're doing in afghanistan. going after bin laden is but one of them. let's see what happens to this network now. let's see what they do. as secretary chernoff said, we could get a lot more biodiversity, so to speak, in the kind of threats coming after us if bin laden did have such a controlling hand. now you're going to have more independent actors and perhaps more agile actors, so let's wait. >> from your point of view, does our tempo increase?...
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. >> about afghanistan, my next guest, as you know, senator mccain is just back from iraq and afghanistan and has been critical of the timeline for the beginning of withdrawal, saying that, in fact, it is creating erratic behavior among hamid karzai and others in the region. is it a problem for the u.s. to announce the beginning of the end of the war? does it undercut our policy? >> no. it's important that we announce the beginning of a drawdown. we've always said it would be based on conditions on the ground, and that is still the case. but it's important to let the afghans know that they have to pick up the pace in terms of training up the military, training up their police, being ready to accept responsibility. and this beginning of the drawdown has a disciplining effect in that regard. so, it's important. we set it in conjunction with our military leadership. everyone agreed that it was important and it's not going to shift. >> we'll leave it there. david axelrod in chicago this morning. thank you as always. >> good to be with you. >>> now senator john mccain, welcome back to "meet th
. >> about afghanistan, my next guest, as you know, senator mccain is just back from iraq and afghanistan and has been critical of the timeline for the beginning of withdrawal, saying that, in fact, it is creating erratic behavior among hamid karzai and others in the region. is it a problem for the u.s. to announce the beginning of the end of the war? does it undercut our policy? >> no. it's important that we announce the beginning of a drawdown. we've always said it would be based...
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he writes this in part over the debate on afghanistan. hillary clinton, the secretary of state, told the president that her opposition to the 2007 surge in iraq had been political because she was facing him in the iowa primary. the president conceded vaguely that opposition to the iraq surge had been political. to hear the two of them making these admissions, and in front of me, was as surprising as it was dismaying. certainly liberal democrats may have an issue with her taking a position as reported by robert gates. how do you view it? >> i think she's a political person, and i think what this country is stampbing for are real, authentic people that want to serve this country with a pure heart. when they read these things about hillary clinton and examine her life, they question it. and i think this is something that is going to be potentially on the ballot coming 2016 and surrounds hillary clinton wherever she goes. is she real? is she authentic? is she genuine? does she want to serve this country with a pure heart? i think she's politi
he writes this in part over the debate on afghanistan. hillary clinton, the secretary of state, told the president that her opposition to the 2007 surge in iraq had been political because she was facing him in the iowa primary. the president conceded vaguely that opposition to the iraq surge had been political. to hear the two of them making these admissions, and in front of me, was as surprising as it was dismaying. certainly liberal democrats may have an issue with her taking a position as...
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so, you see, what was withdrawn from syria is exactly the sort of thing that if we had it in afghanistan would preven endless waicisn is the president is not respecting sort of deals that america has made, walking away from the kurds in particulartrumcut because on on. >> right. >> but if you don't like a deal that president trump cut, what will you do? >> make a better deal. >> the sounds like president trump. >> no. what president trump doe is wake up in the morning, have a phone call over a tweet and completely change years or even decades of u.s. policy surprising his own generals and country in the process that's not how this works. if we think that there is a commitment, a treaty or a deal that we can improve on, we go to the table and we make it happen. but the credibility of the united states is something that our lives depend on. and when the president undermines it, with things like the action in syria, that is we got to be a country known to keep its word. >> let me move to the debate and the back and forth in particular you had with senator warren. te how she's going to pay f
so, you see, what was withdrawn from syria is exactly the sort of thing that if we had it in afghanistan would preven endless waicisn is the president is not respecting sort of deals that america has made, walking away from the kurds in particulartrumcut because on on. >> right. >> but if you don't like a deal that president trump cut, what will you do? >> make a better deal. >> the sounds like president trump. >> no. what president trump doe is wake up in the...
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. >> i've got to ask you about afghanistan. the president made clear, we're not going to be there a year from now, whether it's this may, june. i will cede you this sort of timeline here. how are we leaving any differently that the russians, the soviets did in '79 in this respect: they left, there was no real transition in place. the version of the taliban, a civil war, they take over. we know what happens. how do we not think the same thing is going to happen again? >> chuck, two things here. first, the president is committed to ending this war, bringing our troops home and making sure, as we do that, to the best of our ability, that afghanistan never again becomes a haven for terrorism and particularly for terrorism that targets the united states. that's why we went there in the first place. that's what brought us there. look, ultimately, any peace that is going to be lasting and that is going to be just has to be afghan-led. what we're doing now is energizing our diplomacy to try to bring the parties together, the taliban, t
. >> i've got to ask you about afghanistan. the president made clear, we're not going to be there a year from now, whether it's this may, june. i will cede you this sort of timeline here. how are we leaving any differently that the russians, the soviets did in '79 in this respect: they left, there was no real transition in place. the version of the taliban, a civil war, they take over. we know what happens. how do we not think the same thing is going to happen again? >> chuck, two...
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in afghanistan, we're there for a purpose. i don't believe we need the size of the footprint doing everything we're doing. i've said that many times publicly. i don't think the president, in the long run, wants to do that, which is why he has committed to this transition. i believe the president and our military and our policy is on the right track. and that track is to turn this over to the afghans as rapidly as possible in a way that meets their needs to have sufficient stability and capacity to survive. >> can we do that before 2014? >> and our needs to be able to prosecute counterterrorism efforts. i think you can do a lot of counterterrorism with a smaller footprint and still imamanage t progress of afghanistan. most of that, in my judgment, will fend on what we're succeeding and doing in pakistan. pakistan is as much the key to the outcome in afghanistan as ni anything else. can we do it by 2014? yes, i believe we can and i think the president is absolutely intent on preventing this from being the mistake that begged the
in afghanistan, we're there for a purpose. i don't believe we need the size of the footprint doing everything we're doing. i've said that many times publicly. i don't think the president, in the long run, wants to do that, which is why he has committed to this transition. i believe the president and our military and our policy is on the right track. and that track is to turn this over to the afghans as rapidly as possible in a way that meets their needs to have sufficient stability and capacity...
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forces leave afghanistan and that region in pakistan, as well? >> i think it's very difficult to predict the future. none of us have been very good at it. certainly i would agree, it's an area of great concern and will continue to be because of the islamists, the militants that are there. i this i it's going to be the charge for the international community at large as well as the leadership in many both afghanistan and pakistan to address these issues. but it's a very worrisome future with respect to that particular area. i'm actually encouraged by the elections in terms of the turnout. that said, i'm -- i continue to be concerned about the overall effects of the government of afghanistan on its people because of the lack of addressing supporting them and corruption and those kinds of things. pakistan certainly also has its challenges. in the end, i actually in long-term, i have hope for the people in that part of the world. i don't think it's an area that we're going to be able to neglect. we're not going to be able to walk away from it, and the
forces leave afghanistan and that region in pakistan, as well? >> i think it's very difficult to predict the future. none of us have been very good at it. certainly i would agree, it's an area of great concern and will continue to be because of the islamists, the militants that are there. i this i it's going to be the charge for the international community at large as well as the leadership in many both afghanistan and pakistan to address these issues. but it's a very worrisome future...
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i served alongside turkish troops in afghanistan. it's leverage for us to make sure that we use our influence to prevent bad outcomes like the one that donald trump green lighted that they're doing right now. if they don't act like an ally in the long run, that's going to have consequences. >> i want to ask you about afghanistan, peter barnett reacted to your debate performance. he writes this, over this headline, democrats are hip quit for condemning trump over syria, if it makes it harder for buttigieg to look america's afghan allies in the eye, the same might be said that buttigieg and the other democratic candidates are proposing in afghanistan, itself. is there a lesson learned, what we are seeing in northern syria about the situation in afghanistan? >> yeah. but the lesson validates my position. because what i've said about afghanistan is where we need to get to and by the way it will involve negotiations. it's not a unilateral non-negotiated withdrawal. what we need to do is get to where we have a light foot print presence of
i served alongside turkish troops in afghanistan. it's leverage for us to make sure that we use our influence to prevent bad outcomes like the one that donald trump green lighted that they're doing right now. if they don't act like an ally in the long run, that's going to have consequences. >> i want to ask you about afghanistan, peter barnett reacted to your debate performance. he writes this, over this headline, democrats are hip quit for condemning trump over syria, if it makes it...
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the corruption issue looms large in afghanistan. it's as big an enemy to the afghan people as the taliban and we must be able to fight corruption as effectively as the taliban. that's a work in progress. >> senator graham, we'll leave it there. thank you as always for being here. >> thank you. extend the bush cuts. >> joining us with a view from the other side, we turn to the the man who was in charge of getting barack obama elected president. his 2008 campaign manager and author of the newly updated paperback version of his book, "the audacity to win," how obama won and how we can beat the party of limbaugh back and palin. david plouffe. welcome back to "meet the press." i want to start on the economy and domestic affairs and we'll touch on the war. this president and his party are running on an economic record. here is that record in a nutshell. it's not a good one. 9.6% unemployed rate. an estimated 3 million property foreclosures this year. we cannot forget the depth of the housing crisis. after 19 months in office, president ob
the corruption issue looms large in afghanistan. it's as big an enemy to the afghan people as the taliban and we must be able to fight corruption as effectively as the taliban. that's a work in progress. >> senator graham, we'll leave it there. thank you as always for being here. >> thank you. extend the bush cuts. >> joining us with a view from the other side, we turn to the the man who was in charge of getting barack obama elected president. his 2008 campaign manager and...
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precisely what's missing in afghanistan. >> let me get a break in here. i want to come back and continue this, talk about the future of the republican party just as the president is trying to negot i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just these owners giving the volt high praise. volt received the j.d. power and associates appeal award two years in a row. ♪ ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation, every solution, comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. part of a whole new line of tablets from dell. it's changing the conversation. ♪ it's changing the conversation. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we inves
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he's been in afghanistan. >> how important is that to you? to other people that have served, how important is it that he wore that uniform too? >> i think it's important but not close to dispositive. it's the kind of thing when a politician says i've been to afghanistan six times, well, you've been on a guided tour. you've seen what people have wanted you to see. when you've had boots on the ground, it's a transformational experience. it was for me. it's transformational. it changed the way i viewed many things about the iraq war and the me. . so i think having that experience and being the only one to bring it to the stage is important. he's shown the ability in these debates to stand up for himself in a way that perhaps people didn't anticipate. >> biden aides say that they think that he is really playing to his strength when he's talking about foreign policy, when he's talking about the middle east. but i think there are a lot of people who still remember the report from "the washington post" saying that the obama administration along with
he's been in afghanistan. >> how important is that to you? to other people that have served, how important is it that he wore that uniform too? >> i think it's important but not close to dispositive. it's the kind of thing when a politician says i've been to afghanistan six times, well, you've been on a guided tour. you've seen what people have wanted you to see. when you've had boots on the ground, it's a transformational experience. it was for me. it's transformational. it changed...